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green_amber) wrote2006-06-19 11:54 am
green_amber) wrote2006-06-19 11:54 am
More on the Great Dr Who debate..
.. from email conversation..
Reasons why people didn't like Love and Monsters
- it's not Who
- the Doctor (and Rose) wasn't the main character
- it "confounds expectations" (as if that was a bad thing!)
- it's like a soap opera, and that's NOT WHO
I think at root what we're seeing here is the naked faaaan mentality - we want it to look like the Who
we remember, monsters, aliens, no characterisation and no emotional development - that's for GIRLS. There's also a lot of gender and class issues floating around in there - Dr Who is above soap opera, and , god help us all, popular culture references - it's POSH and for BOYS. (oddly enough, exactly the kind of boys who will get the ELO references - which makes the hostility all the oddder.)
I do think anyone who could say it wasn't funny has had a complete sense of humour failure- but this seems to include people like Swisstone, so I'm utterly bemused..
It's CHANGE. Like I always say, nobody likes that :-)
Reasons why people didn't like Love and Monsters
- it's not Who
- the Doctor (and Rose) wasn't the main character
- it "confounds expectations" (as if that was a bad thing!)
- it's like a soap opera, and that's NOT WHO
I think at root what we're seeing here is the naked faaaan mentality - we want it to look like the Who
we remember, monsters, aliens, no characterisation and no emotional development - that's for GIRLS. There's also a lot of gender and class issues floating around in there - Dr Who is above soap opera, and , god help us all, popular culture references - it's POSH and for BOYS. (oddly enough, exactly the kind of boys who will get the ELO references - which makes the hostility all the oddder.)
I do think anyone who could say it wasn't funny has had a complete sense of humour failure- but this seems to include people like Swisstone, so I'm utterly bemused..
It's CHANGE. Like I always say, nobody likes that :-)
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But this was an ep that didn't have Rose in at all, practically, so most the above seems to be a coment on the RTD series generally, not this ep. Nor did this ep have a fixation on fathers or family values (which I am also fed up with, believe me, but not nearly as fed up as I am with the Doctor pontificating about how neat the human race is - for chrissakes he's a Time Lord that travels the universe - being this keen on humans is either akin to Aspergist zoo-keeping, or racism against all the OTHER intelligent races in the universe.. anyway..)
I think it did play to an adult fan audience, yes - and unashamedly being one, I enjoyed it, lots. I'm not surprised you didn't. But I don't think it was just for boys (whatever RTD said, he's gay innHE!) - indeed my straw poll is I think that more women than men have enjoyed it of the LJ-fan coterie (tho with some clear exceptions.)
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