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green_amber ([personal profile] green_amber) wrote2006-06-19 11:54 am
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More on the Great Dr Who debate..

.. from email conversation..

Reasons why people didn't like Love and Monsters

- it's not Who
- the Doctor (and Rose) wasn't the main character
- it "confounds expectations" (as if that was a bad thing!)
- it's like a soap opera, and that's NOT WHO

I think at root what we're seeing here is the naked faaaan mentality - we want it to look like the Who
we remember, monsters, aliens, no characterisation and no emotional development - that's for GIRLS. There's also a lot of gender and class issues floating around in there - Dr Who is above soap opera, and , god help us all, popular culture references - it's POSH and for BOYS. (oddly enough, exactly the kind of boys who will get the ELO references - which makes the hostility all the oddder.)

I do think anyone who could say it wasn't funny has had a complete sense of humour failure- but this seems to include people like Swisstone, so I'm utterly bemused..

It's CHANGE. Like I always say, nobody likes that :-)
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Re: Interesting ...

[personal profile] andrewducker 2006-06-19 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Jackie's "sudden" longing for a toy-boy wasn't at all out of character for her - she shows interest in the Doctor the second she sees him, and I'm sure there's another man mentioned in passing at one point.

And I assumed the Dr/Rose/Monster playing Shaggy/Scooby/Ghost was a way of getting across that we were getting Elton's over the top, hand-waving "Wow, look how exciting things were" explanation of events, rather than The Truth.

Re: Interesting ...

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2006-06-19 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeh. He's an unreliable narrator. Actually, the whole episode might be fanfic :-) (we never do know who he's filming it for, do we?)

And of course the whole ep IS fanfic! I love this!

Re: Interesting ...

[identity profile] blue-condition.livejournal.com 2006-06-19 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
> Actually, the whole episode might be fanfic :-)

Nah, fanfic that bad would be torn to pieces by other fans ;)