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Is it just the effect of having caught up on 4 episodes almost at once, or is series 2 genuinely interesting? In the last 5 or 6 eps, we've had Down the Hatch, the Tailenders, the Others, the death of Shannon, the snatching of Walt, the reunion of Sun and Jin and the apparent embrace by Kate of Sawyer and his Badness, and rejection of Jack the White(who now no doubt ends up with Anna-Lucia, aka Kate mark 2 - the well-meaning at heart gone bad). All of which has a certain density of plot which makes for at least superior soap opera.

But more than that I do like the way the Tailenders are the kind of shadow version of the crew we've come to know and er fancy. It throws into highlight the Enid Blyton summer campness of the island experience we've observed so far, compared to the Lord of the Flies stuff the Tailies have endured. OK there's been a bit of death and a bit of dismay at our end, but that Tailender's intro episode - it was genuinely scarey. And the despair when Ana Lucia said "This is the rest of your life - get used to it" - that was really chilling.

So Our Lot have Jack as leader, and They have Anna Lucia - not quite the light and the dark actually, but more the different places despair drives you to. One saves lives, one takes them. In A-L's case it seems to have taken her to viewing everyone as potentially evil; in Jack's case to viewing everyone as potentially redeemable. AFAIK we still don't really know what Jack's final tragedy was - yes, alcoholic dad = miserable over pressurised attempt to grow up as do-gooder, ok, but why did his charmed and fated marriage end? have I missed something? I also can't recall what transpired between him and A-L at the airport (they didn't shag did they?) - can someone remind me?

And Jack is the Good of Kate's real / unreal father (hence the desperately half hearted attempt to snog him) while Sawyer is the Dark of Wayne her biological father. This was so utterly obviously coming that I dearly wished they'd stopped halfway through and not explained it in such detail, in which case it would have been quite nice. Still, it is a sturdy psycho-dramatic set up, especially when it leaves Jack open to seeking to redeem A-L to make himself feel better, while we can only hope she brings out in the dark in him, rather than becoming whiter-than-boringly cured. And I hope she still has a torch for the intriguing Mr Eco too.

Who is clearly the Tailender's version of Locke (an Ec(h)o?) - except it's already been spelled out for us that while Locke has simple faith, Mr Eco falls somewhere between Jack's uber-scientific rationalism and Locke's faith. (I loved the bit where they faked us out into believing Eco would be some kind of religious nutter when actually he was simply displaying a film reel he'd found.) Assuming Eco *is* the Nigerian drug smuggler who crashed on the island - then he should be of the dark persuasion too. (no, not a racist comment.) A rival for Kate's charms perhaps if she's admitted whitebread Jack won't do it for her but can't face Sawyer? that should annoy both A-L AND Jack.. Well we need *some* romantic tension! and since we now seem to have imminently happy couples of Sun/Jin, Hobbit/ozzie girl, Rose/Rose's white hubbie, Kate/Sawyer and Jack/A-L, and Sayid is clearly going to be Lone Ranger for a bit - who else do we have to play around with? No I can't take Hurley seriously as romantic lead, and as far Michael=-- pshaw! (I bet there's someone I've forgotten!)

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It has got a lot better. I sort of drifted away last year and missed a bunch in the middle, but I get the feeling that the writers have at least some sort of plan.

I don't blame her for picking Sawyer over Jack. Jack is so very very very dull. Also he didn't want her to carry any dynamite and I never think that sort of thing's romantic. I don't think Ozzie Girl is that keen on the hobbit, so there could be some tension there. I'm glad they're doing Adebisi next week. Michael is too sonsonson to be a romantic lead at the moment. Hm, there is that mad Scottish bloke who ran off, maybe he'll come back.

Yeh I definitely felt it had momentum - that's what it did lose in series 1. It does seem to be pointing towards the "walt is god" theory at the moment, doesn't it?
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I finally realised the other day that what really annoyed me about Lost wasn't the show itself, which is a relatively inoffensive night-time soa,p but the station promos which repeatedly claimed that drammatic revelations would be made in the next episode. Of course this never happened but that's not the fault of the show, what was at fault was my believing that some of the islands secrets would be revealed early on. Of course common sense dictates that this should not be so because otherwise there's nothing to hold the interest of the viewing audience while the soap opera element slowly but steadily grind into gear.

I shall miss four episodes while I'm away in Oz next month. I bet that something really, really convoluted happens to reset everything (apparently Desmond the mad Scottish bloke does return at some point, bearing v. v. bad news) and I shall spend the rest of the series trying to work out wehat it was and what's happened to half the survivors. Bummer!

Um, why don't you download em? Actually i think Christina has most the sereis downloaded already so maybe she could lend you em?

Um, why don't you download em?

Because I have neither broadband nor a DVD burner at home.

Actually i think Christina has most the sereis downloaded already so maybe she could lend you em?

Overtaken by a work-colleague who has been downloading the episodes and had been promising to lend them to me, and handed over the DVDs this lunchtime. So before I depart I'll be able to catch up with where I ought to be when I get back. (Whee-hee!)

Yes, clearly Jack and Ana-Lucia are being set up for each other, and Jack/Kate is never going to happen - clearly he has a thing for athletic independent-minded women who are good with guns. But what I noticed in the most recent episode was how on the edge Jack himself is. He's far from being as perfect as everyone thinks. (Oh, and Jack and A-L just flirted a bit in the lounge before the flight - A-L had been behind him in the queue when he was ranting at the desk girl to get his father on the plane.)

Eco, on the other hand, is indeed Locke without the dangerous need to believe.

And when's Delenn coming back? (This island is getting pretty crowded!)

Delenn? Wasn't he in Babylon 5??

What about mad French bird?

Yes, mad French bird Rousseau, played by Mira Furlan, who played Delenn in B5.

Good god!

That is all so ironic given the episode I've just seen (No. 20 for when you get there!) I won't say anymore - but had to say this much as I don't often get to be the person who's ahead rather than behind!

But I do agree there is more going on in this series than the last!

I wonder if ironic means I'm realy right or I'm really wrong!! No no don't tell me!

Actually I'm now wondering if the Tailies ARE The Others and everything we got told in that ep was a lie!

No way, dude -- the Tail-Enders were still losing people to The Others right up until the point they ran into Sayid and Shannon. (Cindy was taken as Sawyer's stretcher was being hauled up the river bank.)

Here's a thought for you: Can you name one person The Others have killed?

"Cindy" - allegedly - but I can't remember what she looked like and seh just vanished ..

It does begin to sound like a fantasy-conspiracy..

And how on earth did those American/Canadian speaking people get to be one of the Others anyway??

But there's no evidence that The Others have killed anyone -- they take, or kidnap, them.

If The Others wanted just to kill people, why would they bother kidnapping them first?

They clearly have A Plan -- even if the scriptwriters haven't yet worked out what it might be!

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