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green_amber ([personal profile] green_amber) wrote2008-06-08 12:02 am

Spoilers

I've just watched..

Fuck oh fuck oh fuck.

I cried with sorrow and I cried with happiness and I cried with recognition; "Today, everybody lives."

That wasn't just the best episode of New Who so far, it was the best piece of drama I've seen in a long time.

God are we seeing Moffat growing: that wasn't just the Moffat who can do scarey and postmodern and structurally brilliant and funny and who understands just what time travel can do for narrative structure and who can catch exactly how people really do talk as opposed to the way they do in TV drama; that was the Moffat who's growing up and is trying to understand life and children and love and death. And spoilers and tech, of course.

Lots of it is ripped off from The Time Traveller's Wife, of course. But frankly my dear I don't give a damn.

No spoilers :)

EDIT: Have we EVER seen the Doctor having knowledge of his own future? So simple and yet such an interesting thought..

EDIT 2: Do we HAVE a Bad Wolf yet this season??

[identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com 2008-06-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
She was alright as Moll Flanders, but as the Doctor's future life partner...I just don't see it at all. And even he didn't see it until she whispered his name...which kind of suggests that he doesn't see how he could be attracted to such a person in the future. I dunno.

In regards to the Bad Wolf in this season - there have been a few things that have recurred. There was a frequent mention of bees, as well as 'something on Donna's back' (which I have a feeling will crop up again soon), and the idea of 'songs coming to an end' (though that could have been a reference to tonight's episode). And 'darkness' seems to be a key theme as well, especially if you watch the trailer for the next few episodes that was screened recently. I have no idea how much of this, if any, is relevant to the whole 'story arc' but there doesn't seem to be anything as solid as a Bad Wolf reference, and instead lots of little clues here and there.

[identity profile] moral-vacuum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Other than regular appearances of Billie Piper. On a viewscreen, in London, and as a kiddie picture on the wall (with wolf) in the first part of this two-parter. Plus of course lots of references to death, leading up to Donna being DEAD MEAT.

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeh, how did I forget about Rose? *blush*

[identity profile] percyprune.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
My response is diametrically opposite. She makes a perfect wife for the Doctor: capable, smart, charismatic, sexy and with a maturity we've rarely seen in a companion. Alex Kingston has that Helen Mirren quality of getting hotter as she gets older.

I really don't understand some fans' knee-jerk reaction against her. Smug? Bossy? You might as well be describing the Doctor himself.

As for the Doctor's response to River, wheeeell love is an odd thing. It's not always at first sight and the circumstances of their first meeting is definitely disconcerting. I'm so pleased with this addition to the canon. It's much-needed and if the Doctor is ever going to be married, I can think of no better bride than River Song.

[identity profile] surliminal.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's very clear he thinks she is hot as hell, a match for him and immensely capable. Which is very much teh Moffat pattern of the the Dr's ideal woman (cf reinette).