... do you really think that's the full list of reasons people didn't like this episode?
Actually, I might go along with the first ... maybe!
I'm not a massive Who fan (I watched Pertwee, hated Tom Baker and didn't watch it again except for a couple of McCoy episodes until the TV movie came along, which was NOT Who (half human? That's Mr.SPOCK you fools!)) and still I didn't like this episode.
In any long running series, there's a chance to play with conventions and doing something from a different angle (musical episodes of Buffy, The Drew Carey Show, Moonlighting and even something similar in X-Files) and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't (Buffy was brilliant because it was great music *and* advanced the plot)
I think the problem, for me, was that it *was* a Supergran/Rentaghost episode. It was a sitcom, aimed at kids (and not very bright kids either). It was CITV at its worst.
Now I can understand that a lot of the comedy was from the memories of Elton (and so any change in characterisation of Jackie, Rose, the Doctor etc. were based on his memories/interpretation rather than "reality"!), and yes, I did like the ELO references (grin!).
And then you say that the problem the BOYS have is that we want it to have monsters, aliens, no characterisation and no emotional development which is almost exactly what that episode was, and my problem with it was that it was that way. Everyone was cardboard characters being pushed around (it *was* an animated storyboard of a bad cartoon version of Dr.Who)
Sure there were good bits, but Peter Kay was annoying (particularly his Mike Myers/Fat Bastard impression). LI'n'DA were great, and I'm sorry they were killed off ... they could have got together with Sarah Jane and K9, bought a big green transit van, and gone investigating!
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Date: 2006-06-19 11:53 am (UTC)Actually, I might go along with the first ... maybe!
I'm not a massive Who fan (I watched Pertwee, hated Tom Baker and didn't watch it again except for a couple of McCoy episodes until the TV movie came along, which was NOT Who (half human? That's Mr.SPOCK you fools!)) and still I didn't like this episode.
In any long running series, there's a chance to play with conventions and doing something from a different angle (musical episodes of Buffy, The Drew Carey Show, Moonlighting and even something similar in X-Files) and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't (Buffy was brilliant because it was great music *and* advanced the plot)
I think the problem, for me, was that it *was* a Supergran/Rentaghost episode. It was a sitcom, aimed at kids (and not very bright kids either). It was CITV at its worst.
Now I can understand that a lot of the comedy was from the memories of Elton (and so any change in characterisation of Jackie, Rose, the Doctor etc. were based on his memories/interpretation rather than "reality"!), and yes, I did like the ELO references (grin!).
And then you say that the problem the BOYS have is that we want it to have monsters, aliens, no characterisation and no emotional development which is almost exactly what that episode was, and my problem with it was that it was that way. Everyone was cardboard characters being pushed around (it *was* an animated storyboard of a bad cartoon version of Dr.Who)
Sure there were good bits, but Peter Kay was annoying (particularly his Mike Myers/Fat Bastard impression). LI'n'DA were great, and I'm sorry they were killed off ... they could have got together with Sarah Jane and K9, bought a big green transit van, and gone investigating!