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green_amber(Yes, more thoughts - I've come home early for a plumber who wasn't there!)
I was pretty much drenched in tears post Doomsday. But when the same thing happened on second viewing, I wanted to work out why it got to me so much. Oddly, when I went looking on various people's ljs (inc the drwho community) I found two reactions from people who *hadn't* liked it (and who weren't the sizeable proportion who simply didn't like Rose, or the idea of the Doctor being gooey with anyone): 1) the "feminist ending" brigade - ie, those who wanted Rose to be seen to be moving on with her life, fighting the good fight, getting over the Doctor, not us left with our last sight of her broken hearted on a cold beach;and 2) the "heroine" brigade - those who'd wanted her to die, properly, so she got a chance for heroic death, rather than effectively having her fate decided for her by two men (the Doctor for closing the breach, and Pete for rescuing her.)
Which gave me some clues as to why I think RTD got just the right ending. Either a heroic death or a happy ending - Rose-moves-on - would have closure - and closure is what lets you, the viewer, move on, lets you forget. By now Rose would be fish wrapping in the fan mentality. But Rose trapped unhappy (but coping, bravely) in another world, knowing she'll never forget the Doctor and hoping he'll never forget her but suspecting maybe he will, may-be he already has - now THAT's how you write real drama. That doesn't give the viewer closure, and means it's hard, hard to forget Rose.
And that's why I cried so hard. I think.
I was pretty much drenched in tears post Doomsday. But when the same thing happened on second viewing, I wanted to work out why it got to me so much. Oddly, when I went looking on various people's ljs (inc the drwho community) I found two reactions from people who *hadn't* liked it (and who weren't the sizeable proportion who simply didn't like Rose, or the idea of the Doctor being gooey with anyone): 1) the "feminist ending" brigade - ie, those who wanted Rose to be seen to be moving on with her life, fighting the good fight, getting over the Doctor, not us left with our last sight of her broken hearted on a cold beach;and 2) the "heroine" brigade - those who'd wanted her to die, properly, so she got a chance for heroic death, rather than effectively having her fate decided for her by two men (the Doctor for closing the breach, and Pete for rescuing her.)
Which gave me some clues as to why I think RTD got just the right ending. Either a heroic death or a happy ending - Rose-moves-on - would have closure - and closure is what lets you, the viewer, move on, lets you forget. By now Rose would be fish wrapping in the fan mentality. But Rose trapped unhappy (but coping, bravely) in another world, knowing she'll never forget the Doctor and hoping he'll never forget her but suspecting maybe he will, may-be he already has - now THAT's how you write real drama. That doesn't give the viewer closure, and means it's hard, hard to forget Rose.
And that's why I cried so hard. I think.
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Date: 2006-07-12 02:03 pm (UTC)That's the worst plot for a porn film I'm ever heard.
Agree you about the ending of "Doomsday", btw. I just can't fathom why so many people hated Rose. The same way Beatles fans booed Jane Asher for dating Macca, perhaps?