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green_amberAlright I'm tired of saving the world, owed some fun :)
Feelings, not criticism. mostly
That ending - god those sexual poliics are dodgy. I feel kind of dirty, almost. Real Dr really luurves Rose so... (a) he can't commit - even to say he loves her (b) he's happy to hand her over to his own clone (the ego!) who is also a mass murderer and fuck up (this is love?) Yes he looks miserable but is he sexually jealous of FakeDoctor? Not really. Hmm. Some hero male role model.. Also mass murdering fucked up FakeDr CAN commit. Because he won't live any longer than Rose. Mmm - again cool message huh? yes when you reach 40 men, quick leave old hag in favour of young child bearing model!
If this satisfies Rose shippers I'll be amazed. My overall impresion is of enormous aspergers emotional detachment /disregard phrased as "love is what I see as your best interests" - RealDr feels sad to have lost his little Earth girl but it's Ok, it had to be done. And Rose gets to be a therapetic sex surrogate for FakeDr. Wow. Cool gift. I'm sorry, I'm not being overly feminist, really, and I actually rather LIKED the Rose love story though I wasn't a fangirl shipper - it was classic in its way - and I just don't like this resolution. It smells bad in lots of ways.
Of course what could happen - and I really would quite like to see - is that things go spectacularly bad with Rose and FuckedupDr, perhaps Rose dies in an accident or something (Billy Piper wil never want to come back again, surely?) or even Alt DR KILLS her in a rage (oo-er) and AltDr becomes BAD DOCTOR. Now there's a new villain for you and a half. And Rose did say they'd built a new Tardis right?? (I can barely remember now actually why RealDr and Rose have to part. No one really believes it now it seems as easy as that to skip between dimensions, instead of requiring the energy of a supernova. Which makes RealDr shoving Rose off as sex maid onto Fake Dr seem all the more callous. We should have had a flashback to remind people like me..)
Why did the reality ray (or whatever it was called) do all that disrupting of dimensions (esp as it only got used on daleks in the end not aLL THE UNIVERSE)? It wasn't a time OR dimension weapon, it just tore molecules apart. Bombs do that on a smaller scale. How did all this fling Rose around, causes all the worlds to run ninto each other, do weird shit to Donna etc? How did Tardis know way back Donna would be special so as to beam her on to Tardis from her wedding? Computer say no. (or was it the fake Tradis Alt Rose built which really caused all this shit? I thought that at one point but no one shouted at Rose, so I guess not?)
The rest - I pretty much loved. (THis is really not meant to be a negative review.)Loved Davros recognising SJS; Donna's fantastically funny take on "Being David Tennant" - god that woman can ACT!!!! Mickey and Martha for Torchwood yay! Mickey at least might make them less wooden and Martha less useless :) Is Mickey having a thing on the side with Rose's mum??? Oo-er. Jack's line about what he'd do with 2 Doctors - priceless:)
And essentially no reset, you know, really. Oster Hagen thingy not used. Clone Dr not killed off as I was absolutely expecting. Donna not killed off. Earth people left to work out what they belive, no mind wipe, no "it never happened". Harriet Jones indeed still dead. RTD has learnt quite a lot in last 4 years. Rose *should* have been killed off tho, sigh. No victories without casualties, hasn;t he read any Classics? Some very good tying up of motifs eg, the Dr's anbivalent non-violence. But shouldn't someone have mentioned how many more people died in the world-without-Dr? That was Donna's job SURELY.
(And doesn't RTD get that if the Dr is really someone who runs from the consequences of his actions leaving others to suffer - an interesting idea - RTD has written him that way far more so in his romantic relationships? But I don't think he (RTD) actually *sees* that.)
RTD having a go at his, aka Donna's, mum? Bit near\ the knuckle for soap tv.
I like that over RTD's reign, the Dr has indeed - don't barf - gone on a JOURNEY. Personal growth. As evidenced by comparison to FakeDr.
Now when do we get River Song? What we/he needs - Dr moving on from gadding round universe leaving corpses philandering stage. Time to put away the WiiFit and move on from the kidult stage.
WEirdest response I've yet seen on finale :![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
fides suggesting Jack's coat is immortal just like Jack (even when he's disintegarted) cos Jack sweats a lot and sometimes wears\ the coat with nothing else under it so it's become part of his "body". Wow, these slash writers think of everything.
Feelings, not criticism. mostly
That ending - god those sexual poliics are dodgy. I feel kind of dirty, almost. Real Dr really luurves Rose so... (a) he can't commit - even to say he loves her (b) he's happy to hand her over to his own clone (the ego!) who is also a mass murderer and fuck up (this is love?) Yes he looks miserable but is he sexually jealous of FakeDoctor? Not really. Hmm. Some hero male role model.. Also mass murdering fucked up FakeDr CAN commit. Because he won't live any longer than Rose. Mmm - again cool message huh? yes when you reach 40 men, quick leave old hag in favour of young child bearing model!
If this satisfies Rose shippers I'll be amazed. My overall impresion is of enormous aspergers emotional detachment /disregard phrased as "love is what I see as your best interests" - RealDr feels sad to have lost his little Earth girl but it's Ok, it had to be done. And Rose gets to be a therapetic sex surrogate for FakeDr. Wow. Cool gift. I'm sorry, I'm not being overly feminist, really, and I actually rather LIKED the Rose love story though I wasn't a fangirl shipper - it was classic in its way - and I just don't like this resolution. It smells bad in lots of ways.
Of course what could happen - and I really would quite like to see - is that things go spectacularly bad with Rose and FuckedupDr, perhaps Rose dies in an accident or something (Billy Piper wil never want to come back again, surely?) or even Alt DR KILLS her in a rage (oo-er) and AltDr becomes BAD DOCTOR. Now there's a new villain for you and a half. And Rose did say they'd built a new Tardis right?? (I can barely remember now actually why RealDr and Rose have to part. No one really believes it now it seems as easy as that to skip between dimensions, instead of requiring the energy of a supernova. Which makes RealDr shoving Rose off as sex maid onto Fake Dr seem all the more callous. We should have had a flashback to remind people like me..)
Why did the reality ray (or whatever it was called) do all that disrupting of dimensions (esp as it only got used on daleks in the end not aLL THE UNIVERSE)? It wasn't a time OR dimension weapon, it just tore molecules apart. Bombs do that on a smaller scale. How did all this fling Rose around, causes all the worlds to run ninto each other, do weird shit to Donna etc? How did Tardis know way back Donna would be special so as to beam her on to Tardis from her wedding? Computer say no. (or was it the fake Tradis Alt Rose built which really caused all this shit? I thought that at one point but no one shouted at Rose, so I guess not?)
The rest - I pretty much loved. (THis is really not meant to be a negative review.)Loved Davros recognising SJS; Donna's fantastically funny take on "Being David Tennant" - god that woman can ACT!!!! Mickey and Martha for Torchwood yay! Mickey at least might make them less wooden and Martha less useless :) Is Mickey having a thing on the side with Rose's mum??? Oo-er. Jack's line about what he'd do with 2 Doctors - priceless:)
And essentially no reset, you know, really. Oster Hagen thingy not used. Clone Dr not killed off as I was absolutely expecting. Donna not killed off. Earth people left to work out what they belive, no mind wipe, no "it never happened". Harriet Jones indeed still dead. RTD has learnt quite a lot in last 4 years. Rose *should* have been killed off tho, sigh. No victories without casualties, hasn;t he read any Classics? Some very good tying up of motifs eg, the Dr's anbivalent non-violence. But shouldn't someone have mentioned how many more people died in the world-without-Dr? That was Donna's job SURELY.
(And doesn't RTD get that if the Dr is really someone who runs from the consequences of his actions leaving others to suffer - an interesting idea - RTD has written him that way far more so in his romantic relationships? But I don't think he (RTD) actually *sees* that.)
RTD having a go at his, aka Donna's, mum? Bit near\ the knuckle for soap tv.
I like that over RTD's reign, the Dr has indeed - don't barf - gone on a JOURNEY. Personal growth. As evidenced by comparison to FakeDr.
Now when do we get River Song? What we/he needs - Dr moving on from gadding round universe leaving corpses philandering stage. Time to put away the WiiFit and move on from the kidult stage.
WEirdest response I've yet seen on finale :
fides suggesting Jack's coat is immortal just like Jack (even when he's disintegarted) cos Jack sweats a lot and sometimes wears\ the coat with nothing else under it so it's become part of his "body". Wow, these slash writers think of everything.
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Date: 2008-07-06 07:40 am (UTC)